tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post3870946238390771216..comments2023-12-28T18:17:11.191-05:00Comments on Gruntled Center: The Science of GaydarGruntledhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-22740959195349817142007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:002007-07-13T13:35:00.000-04:00" heterosexual males boast of sexual conquests and...<I>" heterosexual males boast of sexual conquests and speak in crude vulgarities...because they're heterosexual males. It's what they do."</I><BR/><BR/>Let's see. "Blacks commit crimes and speak in crude vulgarities....because thy're black. It's what they do."<BR/><BR/>Again, Arturo....Dean Corll, Jeffrey Dahmer, Patrick Kearney, Fritz Harmann, David Carpenter and Joshua Brown.....you don't want to go there, and neither do I.<BR/><BR/>Quit going there. Group stereotyping is group stereotyping, even when it is against "oppressive majorities".Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-57985815130710610182007-07-07T14:48:00.000-04:002007-07-07T14:48:00.000-04:00I agree, SpragueD, that the cultural variety of ho...I agree, SpragueD, that the cultural variety of homosexualities will always make it difficult to pin down for scientific study. Nonetheless, I have been brought to the conviction that there are biological correlates for at least a central kind of male homosexuality. One of the tasks of the infant science of sexual orientation is to define which kinds of homosexuality have clear physical correlates. Then it will be possible to search for the biological side of the nature/nurture path that turns an orientation into a lifestyle.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-65789152213226525222007-07-07T14:28:00.000-04:002007-07-07T14:28:00.000-04:00William, as a sociologist you surely know that the...William, as a sociologist you surely know that the hallmark of scientific analysis is coming up with a solid operational definition of the phenomenon being researched -- an area that most of these studies elide.<BR/><BR/>These "biology of homosexuality" studies are very risky. More thoughts here:<BR/><BR/>http://www.ratdiary.com/2006/07/27/genetic-fundamentalism/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-82360829042724173162007-07-06T23:50:00.000-04:002007-07-06T23:50:00.000-04:00r.k., heterosexual males boast of sexual conquests...r.k., heterosexual males boast of sexual conquests and speak in crude vulgarities...because they're heterosexual males. It's what they do. I come from a conservative old-fashioned town in Mexico where being gay was less talked about, less thought about, less accepted. Crude hyper-masculinity there was unmatched. This gay "cure", if there will be such a thing, will be a nightmare, quite possible the end of civilized life.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-48453653137028519642007-07-04T17:37:00.000-04:002007-07-04T17:37:00.000-04:00Arturo, what I've noticed is that, as homosexualit...Arturo, what I've noticed is that, as homosexuality has become more visible and more talked about, the tendency to brand any male who does not act in a hyper-masculine way as "gay" and ridicule them for it has become <I>worse</I>. It's at the point now where any young man who does not boast about his numerous sexual exploits with women, or does not speak in crude vulgarities about women's private parts, etc., is accused of being gay by his peers. It didn't used to be that way, when there were gays around but it was not talked about as much.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-76069279001097078672007-06-29T23:25:00.000-04:002007-06-29T23:25:00.000-04:00Physical correlations with sexual orientation are ...Physical correlations with sexual orientation are interesting. More interesting are the psychological characteristics that probably come with sexual orientation, and is there a biological component there also? As you say, some of the findings liken gay men more to women. Are gay men's less aggressive behavior (more like women's, for which they are mocked by more "manly" men..."sissies") also a consequence of biology? Do the physical and psychological go together (it is no accident that men and women are both physically and psychologically different), and is “sexual orientation” simply the manifestation of the whole? In trying to change "sexual orientation" will we affect the whole? Do we really need more aggressive males? Will fear of homosexuality cause parents to genetically, "just in case", hyper sexualize their would-be heterosexual children, boosting male aggression also? Do we really want hyper-heterosexuals among us? It's bad enough that there be no gay people around us. Worse is the heterosexual beasts we'll be creating.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com