tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post8297769888705595216..comments2023-12-28T18:17:11.191-05:00Comments on Gruntled Center: Victims of Victors?Gruntledhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-66610338243122815072007-10-22T14:03:00.000-04:002007-10-22T14:03:00.000-04:00For more than three years, authors Bill Cosby and ...For more than three years, authors Bill Cosby and Alvin F. Poussaint have been listening to the voices at community call-outs in cities across the country. Their latest book, Come On People, due out October 9 in bookstores nationwide, combines messages of personal responsibility with practical solutions, and retells the incredible stories shared at these call-outs. <BR/><BR/>Come On People is for all those who are tired of being used, neglected and undefended—folks who wish to see changes in their governments, their neighborhoods, on their streets and within the walls of their living spaces. <BR/><BR/>At www.BillCosby.com you will find a forum called "The Cos," that is designed for community members to discuss issues beyond those addressed in the book, as well as a place for people to come together and offer solutions. It's time to have the courage to believe you can do better by asking for help and not being afraid to move forward.<BR/><BR/>No matter your economic status, no matter your age, no matter your race, no matter your gender, and no matter your religion, we are all allies in changing our future for the better.<BR/><BR/>You can find downloadable PDF's of excerpts from Come On People at the following links:<BR/><BR/>http://treasures.billcosby.com/pdf/ComeonPeople-pg77-88.pdf<BR/>http://treasures.billcosby.com/pdf/ComeonPeople-pg124-132.pdf<BR/>http://treasures.billcosby.com/pdf/ComeonPeople-pg168-174.pdf<BR/><BR/>We are also willing to send review copies out to the first 100 bloggers who respond to TeamCosby@gmail.com—all we ask is that you publish a review and link back to BillCosby.com. <BR/><BR/>Please share this book and website with members of your blog community—the more people who hear Drs. Cosby and Poussaint's message, the better!<BR/><BR/>Best,<BR/>Christina Stewart<BR/>Respond2 CommunicationsUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14408254247603586732noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-19800161332297434902007-10-21T06:07:00.000-04:002007-10-21T06:07:00.000-04:00That is an interesting question -- Christ was a vi...That is an interesting question -- Christ was a victim, but wasn't "victimy." Christ turned suffering into redemption in the greatest possible way. We can't do what Christ did [note to WWJD wearers: this is a Calvinist point], but can see that suffering is not the end of the story.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-30996025967728562792007-10-20T15:55:00.000-04:002007-10-20T15:55:00.000-04:00Hmmm.... Interesting post. "The minorities are me...Hmmm.... Interesting post. <BR/><BR/>"The minorities are meant to come out of the event thinking of themselves as victims; the majorities are meant to think of themselves as oppressors."<BR/>I would say the goal is more to make people appreciative of how background shapes possibilities (much like the stepping forward/backward activity you taught the students). But it may be that in practice, people reduce it to blame.<BR/><BR/>On the question of victor/victim, I think it is important to remember that we worship a God who was nailed to the cross. Christ was early known as christus victor, but it was not a victory through conquest or even accomplishment. Ideally, our faith teaches us to embrace victimhood, but with the knowledge that it's part of our mission.<BR/><BR/>In churches, I think diversity is to remind us that we are part of the "one, holy, catholic, and apostolic" church. In secular settings, I think the idea of shared humanity is a good analogy. Diversity opens up new possibilities and ideas.Jonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06275023235078665120noreply@blogger.com