tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post5049136185467334160..comments2023-12-28T18:17:11.191-05:00Comments on Gruntled Center: Hate-Filled Religious Terrorists Think They Are the Good Guys Gruntledhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comBlogger37125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-72570744530109787442013-05-22T10:43:59.812-04:002013-05-22T10:43:59.812-04:00Now is the time to prove you are a moderate.Now is the time to prove you are a moderate.frank coulternoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-59719605037866173752013-05-13T20:20:19.316-04:002013-05-13T20:20:19.316-04:00CricketsCricketsNancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-21916102054718427962013-05-13T10:36:42.892-04:002013-05-13T10:36:42.892-04:00This story was leaked by Democrats and may simply ...This story was leaked by Democrats and may simply be a diversion from the worse scandal Benghazi.Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-49229340365657773972013-05-12T00:27:37.176-04:002013-05-12T00:27:37.176-04:00And it seems they also targeted Jewish groups beca...And it seems they also targeted Jewish groups because of politics.Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-64612430670146954882013-05-11T22:28:32.953-04:002013-05-11T22:28:32.953-04:00Thank you for the link. I will follow the unfoldi...Thank you for the link. I will follow the unfolding story.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-33098219254129285292013-05-11T22:21:00.193-04:002013-05-11T22:21:00.193-04:00Beau said, "I did not see any stories about t...Beau said, "I did not see any stories about the IRS investigating Tea Party groups because of politics. I did find stories about the IRS making mistakes in handling the applications of Tea Party groups for tax-exempt status."<br /><br />Here's one you should read. http://www.politico.com/story/2013/05/irs-knew-tea-party-targeted-in-2011-91214.html?hp=f1<br /><br />"Senior Internal Revenue Service officials knew employees were singling out conservative groups for extra scrutiny as early as 2011, according to a watchdog agency’s report set to be released next week, POLITICO has confirmed from a congressional source... The Treasury Inspector General for Tax Administration found that senior Washington officials were informed in 2011. The agency is not disputing the timeline included in the report... The report will also confirm that the IRS asked unnecessary questions of conservative groups seeking tax-exempt status from the agency, the source said, and that there were delays in processing applications for conservative applicants and other c(4) groups."<br /><br />But, hey, it's ok if it is conservatives who are the victims, right?Machttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02067844122370343813noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-83419484490427568362013-05-10T14:59:12.233-04:002013-05-10T14:59:12.233-04:00I did not see any stories about the IRS investigat...I did not see any stories about the IRS investigating Tea Party groups because of politics. <br /><br />I did find stories about the IRS making mistakes in handling the applications of Tea Party groups for tax-exempt status. This report is from CNN:<br /><br />"Multiple tea party groups reported significant delays and excessive questioning from IRS officials while trying to obtain 501(c)(4) status.<br /><br />“The IRS recognizes we should have done a better job of handling the influx of advocacy applications. While centralizing cases for consistency made sense, the way we initially centralized them did not,” the IRS said in a statement.<br />...<br /><br />The IRS said it saw the number of applications seeking such status double from 2010-2012. To handle the influx, local “career employees” in Cincinnati “sought to centralize work and assign cases to designated employees in an effort to promote consistency and quality.”<br /><br />Acknowledging the system did not work, the IRS said it fixed the situation last year and has processed more than half the cases. New rules were issued last year, as well, to “ensure that these mistakes won’t be made in the future.”<br /><br />“The IRS also stresses that our employees – all career civil servants — will continue to be guided by tax law and not partisan issues,” the statement read."Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-51621523259720631252013-05-10T14:31:01.064-04:002013-05-10T14:31:01.064-04:00I think that the IRS investigating the tea party b...I think that the IRS investigating the tea party because of politics would get you centrist's dander up. No.Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-90082102341977787292013-05-10T13:44:29.934-04:002013-05-10T13:44:29.934-04:00We grind our axes in different ways. You call tea ...We grind our axes in different ways. You call tea partiers tea baggers. There are good and bad tea partiers and Muslims.Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-79309152089618241332013-05-09T21:26:20.696-04:002013-05-09T21:26:20.696-04:00So you would share my objection to Mr. West pointi...So you would share my objection to Mr. West pointing a shotgun at your neighbors, yes?<br /><br />Because that is what he is doing in the picture.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-54713526349034210402013-05-09T18:39:52.102-04:002013-05-09T18:39:52.102-04:00Absolutely my neighbors are regular Muslims...Absolutely my neighbors are regular Muslims...Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-19622571828423384892013-05-09T18:03:34.389-04:002013-05-09T18:03:34.389-04:00Do you welcome regular Muslims?Do you welcome regular Muslims?Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-86118855025983138192013-05-08T22:59:09.141-04:002013-05-08T22:59:09.141-04:00I don't welcome radical Islam...I don't welcome radical Islam...Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-10827882407013825732013-05-08T11:40:12.963-04:002013-05-08T11:40:12.963-04:00Let me be clear then.
The vast majority of Amer...Let me be clear then. <br /><br />The vast majority of American Muslims are just as good Americans as the vast majority of American Christians. The vast majority of Muslims in the world as just as good people as the vast majority of every other great religion's believers.<br /><br />We welcome all faiths in this country. People who threaten other Americans because of their religion are un-American. <br /><br />People who think that the worst Muslims are the typical Muslims are as foolish as people who think Westboro Baptist Church members are typical Christians.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-60490559717757476472013-05-08T09:06:07.958-04:002013-05-08T09:06:07.958-04:00You sometimes lack moral clarity...You sometimes lack moral clarity...Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-31110549614499073862013-05-07T07:21:27.825-04:002013-05-07T07:21:27.825-04:00I started to comment here again, but it became muc...I started to comment here again, but it became much too large so I put it up over at my CrimLaw blog.Ken Lammershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15646250142814585354noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-13002136239797640592013-05-05T17:05:03.262-04:002013-05-05T17:05:03.262-04:00If he were we love gays and religious tolerance......If he were we love gays and religious tolerance... the it would be funny.Poochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-44744793271377450622013-05-05T17:02:43.815-04:002013-05-05T17:02:43.815-04:00No because way to many bad ones have attacked us.No because way to many bad ones have attacked us.Poochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-15375944059413588332013-05-05T13:56:04.478-04:002013-05-05T13:56:04.478-04:00If the same guy were wearing an Arab headdress, an...If the same guy were wearing an Arab headdress, and the word "Christian" were substituted for "Muslim," would you take it as a joke?Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14864860607925412103noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-35605634920596479092013-05-05T10:34:34.669-04:002013-05-05T10:34:34.669-04:00It is a joke politically correct friends.It is a joke politically correct friends.Poochnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-4866957135861750782013-05-04T23:42:37.811-04:002013-05-04T23:42:37.811-04:00Sometimes the truth is politically incorrect..Sometimes the truth is politically incorrect..Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-70079477074205426382013-05-04T23:41:52.408-04:002013-05-04T23:41:52.408-04:00Sometimes the truth is politically incorrect..Sometimes the truth is politically incorrect..Nancy Botwinnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-22875513619494247682013-05-04T13:03:51.001-04:002013-05-04T13:03:51.001-04:00For once gruntled is completely right. Anonymous, ...For once gruntled is completely right. Anonymous, the fact that West may claim that his audience was an in joke confined to a group of his like minded -- or should I say, like, mindless -- peers doesn't let him off the hook. That claim is probably disingenuous and if not then he's a naive terrorist rather than a sophisticated one. He published a terroristic message. Had he confined it to his family, then you could excuse him as "hate monger" but that's a trivial distinction. Hate mongers aid and abet terrorists. The distinction here isn't like the one between civilians and combatants. It's more like between coming up with a business plan and actually starting up a business.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-40685587399885112462013-05-03T12:30:08.004-04:002013-05-03T12:30:08.004-04:00Comments have ignored your statement that, "h...Comments have ignored your statement that, "he doesn't see armed threats by government officials as the worst kind of terrorism." and its implications on our current second amendment debate.<br /><br />The second amendment states, "A well regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed."<br /><br />I doubt Mr. West would agree but, to the extent Americans should still possess it, a right to bear arms is founded in the need to control the kind of bigotry and hate mongering cloaked in government authority that he promotes. Of the worst kindnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-57529905483340827052013-05-03T11:06:45.134-04:002013-05-03T11:06:45.134-04:00[quote]I don't see anything in Rev. Wallis'...[quote]<b>I don't see anything in Rev. Wallis' actions that make him a terrorist - or even indicate that he is hate-filled. </b>[/quote]<br /><br />With all due respect sir - THAT'S YOUR PROBLEM!!!<br /><br />You FRAME and/or ACCEPT THE FRAMING of an indictment against others - most of whom just happen to be "Right-wing Adversaries".<br /><br />YOU want to keep the discussion upon "Terrorists" and "Hate Mongers" who seek to impugn a "vulnerable minority".<br /><br />I added a kerfuffle to your framing - making note that your "Heroes", while rarely out of alignment with YOUR value of "open access to opportunity" and reduction of speech made to "rile up" their opponent - is himself INCOMPETENT at going into a green-field where "Jesus" is made to take cover from the flying bullets as his Progressive Disciples bring order where there is chaos.<br /><br />INSTEAD they are most expert at coming into the place where there is relative "law and order" and then expend their altruism on behalf of the least of these by pushing against THEIR domestic "Hate Groups" (your word) as they are made the heroes by allowing free passage.<br /><br />I cannot be any more clear than this.<br />I will be forced to assign the notion of "willful ignorance" if you can't speak to how the "American Progressive" is both SILENT and INEPT in extending their grace beyond the "man made border" as they reach out to "equal human beings in need" within the lands that they seek to depart from.<br /><br />Where is their competency at providing structural support where "the least of these" reside?Constructive Feedbackhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13417405356099504421noreply@blogger.com