tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post3318897508458793346..comments2023-12-28T18:17:11.191-05:00Comments on Gruntled Center: Bad Egalitarianism at Westfield HighGruntledhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comBlogger3125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-25037488006857526772010-10-26T14:03:22.589-04:002010-10-26T14:03:22.589-04:00In my AP US history class, we had to read from Ame...In my AP US history class, we had to read from American Pageant, which is a pretty lame and somewhat inaccurate textbooks (in previous editions, it was also severely racist and pro-Manifest destiny, but by the time we had it that was mostly cleaned up. It still only had one sentence on women's suffrage though, which was pretty lame)<br />I took to fulfilling assignments by reading online course notes and wikipedia. In a class of 40 students, five got fives on the AP test, and I was one of them.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-5826385032062428372010-10-26T08:56:09.707-04:002010-10-26T08:56:09.707-04:00I agree that many students do not grasp plagiarism...I agree that many students do not grasp plagiarism as well as they used to, mostly because of the ease of stealing internet sources. The cure for that is to teach how not to plagiarize, not to ban research. <br /><br />Moreover, to make talking to your parents about a paper into an Honor Code violation goes way beyond concern with plagiarism.Gruntledhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14377809238377382438noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-16201378.post-8269986345045819292010-10-26T08:42:06.036-04:002010-10-26T08:42:06.036-04:00I wonder if these guidelines might also have been ...I wonder if these guidelines might also have been an attempt to help students avoid plagiarism. If you have been taught something in another class, then include it in a paper for another class, citation becomes tricky. The same with internet sources and anything that is not strictly a textbook, journal article, etc. Obviously, the school has gone overboard, but I wonder if that was part of their thinking process. I know when I used to teach English to college freshman, they would often include information in their papers without any sort of reference, and when I would ask where they found the information, they would say that it was just something they knew, or something someone told them, and it was difficult to make them understand why they needed sources.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com